After feeling quite pleased with my progress to date I’d got to the point of thinking about applying for an IVA test. From what I can tell the process goes like this:
Fill out forms 1c and 4
Collect photos of build
Get a copy of your invoice
Submit two forms, photos and invoice through online application process here
Get TAS number (mine arrived almost instantly by email)
Wait for email about how to pay the £450 inspection fee, then pay it
Wait for email to say “released for inspection”
Call the tests centre and book appointment
GET THE TEST DONE – and pass… hopefully
Take with you all the invoices and documentation provided by Caterham
Submit registration request along with supporting docs
Wait for V5
At least that’s what I think needs to happen, I’ll update this page if it changes and I’ll do a post on the whole IVA thing when the time comes.
Anyway, back to the feeling good about where we’re at… two events happened this week to take me a couple of steps back.
Front Brake Calipers
I got contacted yesterday by Andrew Pepperrell on Facebook who asked why I’d chosen to use the gold/bronze coloured brake hose couplings rather than the matt grey ones when building the front suspension.
There are two sets of couplings provided in the brake kit. I assume that maybe one set gets used on the regular brakes and one on the uprated brake, but that’s just a guess.
For some reason I decided to use the bronze coloured ones when I put the brakes together a few weeks ago. The coupling fits in the calliper thread and seems to tighten up fine but on retrospect is loose.
However, Andrew relayed a conversation he’d had with another builder, George Martin-Simmons, who had talked to Derek Howlett about this precise issue. Derek had told him to use the grey part.
So, I took the front brake hoses off the couplings to test out which worked best. And of course Derek, George and Andrew were right… the grey couplings fit slightly better in the calliper and are less loose in the thread. They’re around 0.5mm different in thread diameter and there’s also a lip/rim that the calliper copper washer fits snuggly over. All round makes more sense and who’s to argue with Derek!
So, disconnect both brake hoses from their callipers and swap out the couplings.
I’ve also now updated the post that details what I did when fitting the front brake callipers.
Switching these couplings over took about an hour, but not a big deal seeing as I’m nowhere near adding any brake fluid yet.
Trip to Caterham Showroom, Crawley
I’d been looking for an excuse to make the trip from Bristol to the Caterham showroom and the delay in getting the bonnet picked up and sent back for a respray was my cue.
Derek hadn’t managed to find a slot when the driver could come over to Bristol and pick up the bonnet. Obviously a thin aluminium bonnet is quite a fragile component and neither I nor Derek wanted to put it into the courier network.
So I decided to take a trip to Caterham early one morning.
My work days get busy when the US wakes up and anyway I was going to be able to do any morning and early afternoon conference calls from the car, so no time lost work wise.
I was keen to have a look around the various cars for sale, take some pictures and also, if possible, further my IVA application. I’d started the IVA process but got a bit nervous that I was going down the right track. So… I’d posted a question to the Catherm Tech Talk Facebook page and was told that I should have had a pack from Caterham… er… no pack for me! Other’s had also not had a pack with their car but gave me a couple of contacts to get the info from at Caterham.
This turned into a game of email tag and eventually I got to someone that could help (the first two names were out on maternity leave and sick leave respectively). So, if possible I also wanted to use my trip to the showroom to discuss and/or pick up any IVA related info I was going to need.
I got to Caterham mid morning and got to meet with Michaela who was helping me with the IVA docs while the others were on leave. She couldn’t provide all I was going to need but she did have filled out copies of the IVA application form 1c and the Amateur Build Declaration form 4. Comparing to what I’d done already they were very close but I was going to have to update my versions and I’m glad I went through the double checking process.
Once I’ve redacted the forms I’ll post them on here for others to see.
I then had a wander around the showroom and introduced myself to a Caterham engineer and a self-builder (Steve) who were finishing their discussion on some self build questions next to a 420R. We then had a 10 minute chat about progress and various issues we’d come across.
In the end I learnt two things in the discussion:
It’s really important to add the grommets in the headlamp stay and the chassis mount where the headlamp sits. Bugger! Going to need to pull the headlamp assemblies off
I’d been wondering how to route the oil pressure sensor cabling and so I took a photo of how a factory build is done around that area, see below.
In the picture above you can see the oil pressure cable is routed across the engine mount strut (there’s a connector sat on the strut) and down onto the chassis rail. It then runs along the chassis rail, doubles back on itself to lose some of its length (out of shot on the right) and then up into the pressure sensor. I’d been wondering how to lose all that cable neatly – now I know.
Other things to note in this picture:
Must remember to put IVA cap on the starter motor 12v supply nut and bolt
There’s a p-clip used to keep the white/red cables tidy coming off of the starter motor
So, really pleased I took the time to go to the showroom. Michaela gave me a run through on what to expect from IVA and I got to have a chat about my build with an engineer. The downside, I’m going to have to pull the headlamp assembly off the chassis and fit some grommets.
Here’s some pictures from my visit:
No time like the present… I had a couple of meetings cancelled this evening when I’d got back from Caterham and so had an hour from 9 until 10 to take a look at this.
I started off thinking I could add the grommets whilst the headlamp assembly was in place…
… after a couple of minutes on my back under the car I decided this wasn’t going to work… so off with the headlamp.
This turned into a bit more of a job than I thought it was going to be. In the end I had to:
Remove the ARB gators and cable ties (I knew I shouldn’t have put the cable ties on so soon)
Remove the front ARB from its sockets on both ends (to get access to the headlamp chassis bolt, the ARB won’t allow the bolt to exit its hole) and chassis mounts
Slacken off the radiator extensions (the ARB won’t come out of its sockets because it hits the extensions before it will pop out)
Remove the headlamp chassis bolt
It was then just a case of putting it all back together and order some 2.5mm x 200mm cable ties to fix the gators back on with.
Two steps back and then two steps forwards! Is that progress?
An odds and ends day… but a big one… something to sit on!
Having got the passenger compartment carpets installed is seemed only right to have a go at getting more of the finer things in life installed… harnesses and seats… Whoa we can move the seats out from the lounge!
Transmission Tunnel Top
I had test fitted the transmission tunnel top a couple of times. It seems to be just be a friction fit – hmm… wonder if that’s going to be a problem later?
The back end of the tunnel top was a bit dinged up when I took it out of its poly bag. So out with the leather persuader this time and persuade it back into shape.
Now onto the harnesses.
For some reason I hadn’t taken the harnesses out of their boxes until now. It was one of the things I’d been looking forward to having a peek at and I’m amazed I found enough to distract me from peering inside the boxes to this point.
There wasn’t much to find in the end. Exactly as I’d hoped. I’d heard stories of people getting mismatched colours and was relieved to find all was in order.
The boxes came with instructions and the handed-ness was written on the box.
Plonking the harnessing into the passenger compartment got me to the first uh-oh moment then. The handed-ness didn’t make sense. When I put the harness marked LH into the passenger compartment the buckle with the big red lever was on the outboard side of the car. Same with the RH buckle, it was outboard. That’s not right!
All the builds I’ve read about talk about needing to have the buckle towards the inside of the car. If you have the buckle outboard then people (probably including me) have a tendency to fling the buckle over the side of the car and dent, or scratch, the body work. That’s not right.
So, I made and executive decision and switched the harnesses around… buckle straps next to the transmission tunnel.
The next job is to attach shoulder straps to the bolts set in the top chassis mounts. The harnesses have various bolts, washers and spacers included. There was also a poly bag sellotaped onto one of the boxes with Caterham supplied bolts included.
I tried a couple of combinations of things and then settled on a solution. I needed a bolt (already inserted into the chassis when the car arrived), brass flanged spacer (hope that’s a good name for it), aluminium spacer and flat washer. The kit also comes with a cardboard washer but that seemed to be superfluous.
The brass flanged spacer sits the lowest in the stack. Then comes the aluminium spacer, harness strap, flat washer and then bolt.
As you can see from the picture above. The brass spacer deforms as it is compressed. I tried a few experiements here and it seemed to me that the best approach was to tigheten the stack up without the harness included, which got the brass spacer inserted fully into the boot cover hole. I could then undo the bolt and fettle the brass spacer so the top flange looked less deformed ( I got it better than in the photo above). I could then refix the stack with the harness included and torque the whole thing up.
There seems to also be an IVA related cap for the harness bolts. However, the caps are quite loose with my test fitting and so I’ve left them to one side and will probably silicone them in place when I’m convinced I don’t need to take the harnesses out again.
All in the harnesses look great.
With both harnesses in place its time for some seats.
Again… not a difficult job. First off I needed to get the carpets installed below the seats. I was in two minds about whether to glue the carpets in place or leave them floating. In the end I decided they are something that might get wet from time to time and so I didn’t want them curling at the edges… so I glued them in place.
That decision made I needed to make the holes in the carpets for the seat bolts. My solution was to lay the carpets in place and to mark the holes on the carpets with a paint pen from underneath.
Then I could punch out the four holes with a 14mm punch tool.
And the carpets could be glued into place.
Now the seats can be installed.
The seat bolts poke through the bottom of the floors by a few mm past the nyloc nuts. However, it’s important from an IVA perspective to A) have the bolts inserted from the top and B) the thread needs to poke out below the end of the nyloc nut. The first point is obvious, if the nyloc nut falls off then you still have a bolt semi-securing the seat in place. I’ve come to appreciate the second point after reading a number of blogs where people have tried to cut short the bolts poking out of the nylon nut. ISTM that IVA inspectors want to see threads poking out of nyloc nuts so they can firstly see that the nylon is doing something and secondly the extra thread gives much greater scople for safety if you think the nut is going to come undone… it has to unwind itself by more threads before it falls off.
Installing the seats was basically a simple task. Shoving the seat backwards to install the front bolts and then forwards to install the rear bolts is obvious. Getting the rear bolts tightened is another matter… I had all the 1/4” extension bars I could muster attached to a ratchet and Allen key socket. For me, I then wedged the wrench against something as I finally tightened up the nut from below with a spanner. On one seat the wedging meant that I had a real tug of war with the ratchet to unwedge it… but I got there in the end.
Here’s the end result. Almost looking habitable…
One final job for the day… attach the silencer.
Simple job and gets a big chunk of stainless steel and wadding out of my office. The detritus that makes up a kit is slowly assembling itself into a car!
There’s nothing much to report on the silencer going in. I had a few goes at tightening up the jubilee clip that fixes the silencer to that cat. I kept on tightening and the silencer still rotated it when I tweaked it. In the end I decided that it should rest with the outlet pointing slightly downward and I’d have to revisit how tight the clip is if it leads.
That’s another day done. Surely we’re getting close to starting it?
At the end of the last post I said it was time to start thinking about starting the car. I “could”… but… I’m still unhappy about putting fluids in the car and I clearly hadn’t quadruple checked the quadruple checking I’d been doing!… I need oil and water in the engine circuits to start it and I still want to think about the pipe routing some more, and, and and…
… Hold you’re horses, we’re nowhere near starting the engine!
So… on to the interior instead. Phew! That was close!
Start the day with something simple.
I’ll call this trim “interior” even though it feels very exposed but the scuttle trim technically sits inside the car once you have the hood and doors in place.
The scuttle trim is a “rubberised” u-shaped channel piece (see below) that has what looks like a squashed steel helix embedded in its construction. It looks similar to the smaller and more flexible IVA trim used elsewhere in the build, but is bigger and has the extra rigidity imposed by the steel insert.
This trim also gets used on the leading edge of the catalytic converter shroud and I’ve also seen it used on the lower LHS engine bay cross member to protect the lowest oil line from rubbing.
But back to the scuttle… The trim is placed on the rear edge of the scuttle, essentially inside the passenger compartment. The idea is that the scuttle bodywork edge is too sharp and the trim is needed in case you’re involved in an accident. The trim both softens the edge (mechanically) while increasing the bend radius at the same time.
I chamfered both ends of the trim as I installed it, mainly so it looked better but also so the ends sat flush with the bodywork panels.
I tried to “cold” fit the trim initially. It wasn’t a cold day and I thought the trim felt pliable enough. However, as I fed the trim onto the scuttle it was just not going right.
So… out with a kettle, a bowl, and a steaming pool of hotness to heat up the trim.
The heat made a bit of difference but not quite what I’d hoped for. The trim, as it was applied, had a tendency not to sit flush with the scuttle bodywork as it went around the tighter radiuses at the sides of the car. I’d hoped that heating up the trim would allow it to sit flatter on the scuttle but it didn’t make a material difference. The steel work inside the trim was clearly keeping its shape more than I’d hoped.
Knee Trim Panels
I wasn’t looking forward to this bit. Plenty of others have commented on what a pain they are to fit.
On our car a lot of the interior paneling had been done. As well as fitting all of the hood “poppers” into the body work, the sill protectors and elbow rests had been installed. This meant that most of the rivets along the outer sides of the passenger compartment had been fitted. The riveting stopped just before the point where the sill meets the scuttle and means you are still required to fit the knee trim panels under the dash.
Caterham clearly thought that while the knee trim panels are a pain, they are not something that people screw up enough to cost Caterham money. My theory on why they now fit the hood is that it involves drilling a lot of holes into the bodywork for the poppers and I suspect that people may sometimes screw this step up and ask Caterham to then fix the misplaced holes created in the body work… very expensive for someone.
So, the knee trim panels fit under the dashboard on the outside of the passenger compartment – one trim panel for both drivers and passengers side.
The trim panels are supposed to stop your knees from being hurt in an accident. If they weren’t there then you flailing knees might impact a bunch of electronics and wiring up under the dash.
These trim panel installations require you to locate the trim panel against the back edge of the firewall, in-between the inside trim panels running down the footwell, the scuttle and then sandwich some rubber piping in-between all of this.
To boot… the trim panels are the wrong shape! At least that’s the conclusion I came to. I’ve heard that some people stuff the panel in place and then drill out new rivet holes to accommodate the position the panel finds itself in. My solution was different. It looked to me as though the rear of the panel was fouling against the chassis at the point the scuttle meets the sill. There’s too much metal in the chassis at this point and the trim panel needed to be cut to accommodate the shape of the chassis.
It is awkward getting into the footwells to see what’s going on in that area. There’s not much space and not well lit. I ended up putting an inspection lamp onto the transmission tunnel to give me enough light to see more of what was happening.
I also resorted to taking pictures of “up and back” into where the scuttle meets the sill.
I found it useful to mark the positions of the existing rivet holes where I could see them when the trim panel was in place. That gave me a sense of how far I was “out” and how much I needed to trim from the panel.
Having spent at least half and hour getting my head around what was going on and potentially what needed to change, I marked up the trim with what I was going to cut. The following images show my successive attempts at cutting away at the trim.
Now that the trim was in place I could cut the holes in the “rubber” piping that fits between the two sets of panels.
Having got the trim panels to the right size, they need to be fixed. The trim panels themselves are fixed with self tapping screws but there are also rearward parts of the inside trim that also need to be riveted and where Caterham decided “enough is enough, we’ve done enough riveting on this car. Let the customer do the rest”.
I eventually got there. Though I probably spent at least a couple of hours on this task.
The knee trim is finally held in place with black self tapping screws. There are also large access holes in the panels that I presume are there to allow access to the back of the battery cutoff switch etc. Given that the panel is held in with self-tapping screws and not rivets, I would have thought it would be better to just remove the panel rather than attempt keyhole surgery through the access grommet… we’ll see about that when the time comes to tinker.
Could I have completed this task with just drilling out new rivet holes… probably. But I don’t think the panel would have sat “true” to where it was meant to go. I think there would have been gaps between the panel and the scuttle/chassis/firewall and my OCD attention to details that don’t really matter wouldn’t allow me to go with that! Sorry!
Now onto something completely against the ethos of a Seven…. Carpets… in a Seven… sacrilege!
Well… sort of. I’m certainly not interested in carpets to make the interior more “plush”. And it’s not a bling thing either. I wanted carpets as an attempt at noise suppression. I hope to go on some reasonably long journeys in this car and I hope that significant people in my life might want to come with me. Reducing noise levels by a few dB sounded like a good idea to ease those discussions.
So, on with the first stage of getting the carpets in. I know today is not going to get them all installed but at least I can scope out what the whole thing is and to at least get the first pieces of carpet in place.
Ok… but hang on… the first carpet goes onto the firewall at the back of the passenger compartment, behind where the seats go. Hmmm. This piece of carpet has a “leatherette” trim piece that sits over the rear edge of the boot (trunk) and needs holes in it for the seat harnesses.
That means the first job is to remove the boot cover that Caterham had pre-installed.
And because the carpet on the bulkhead also fits around the transmission tunnel, I also need to fit the trim panel that sits on top of, and at the rear of, the transmission tunnel. This is my first bit of serious riveting. The drill attachment made light work of installing the 20 or so rivets.
Once the transmission tunnel panel was in and the boot cover removed, I could properly turn my attention to the firewall carpet. As mentioned above there’s a leatherette piece on the top edge of the carpet. Holes need to be cut in this leatherette so that the seat harness bolts can be re-inserted. I spent a lot of time with spring clamps setting out the carpet/leatherette and figuring out where the holes should go. Once I was happy and had the holes marked out, I cut the holes with my punch set. I used an oversize punch just to make sure I had some wiggle room when attaching the carpet and had sticky glue everywhere – in the end I was able to put the carpet back in almost exactly the same place I had mocked it up to be in.
I’m using a spray can of Ever Build Stick2 Instant Contact Adhesive on the carpets.
The directions on the can talk about “permanent” and “semi-permanent” applications. I was going for a permanent install and so applied adhesive to both sides of the contact area and applied the carpet to the area relatively quickly – i.e. within a minute. Having said that, I didn’t apply adhesive all the way down the firewall behind the seats. I only went as far as the transmission tunnel. That meant I had a good contact at the top of the firewall but just a “tacked” install at the bottom where it didn’t matter. I think that if I end up having to take the carpets out then it will be a “rip and replace” but just in case that’s not what happens I thought I’d make it easier to extract the carpets where they can’t be seen… at the risk that the semi-tack approach stops tacking and the carpet comes away from the metal in that area.
Personally I found the application of the spray adhesive to be pretty controllable and accurate. As long as I didn’t try and spray an edge on my first spray from the can… I could then judge my aim more accurately for the edge sections. I also did all my carpet side spraying outside on a piece of cardboard (see later image of transmission tunnel carpet being sprayed). I did resolve, though, to mask in the boot, when I get to those carpets, the areas where the carpet tiles were much smaller and the chassis members were going to be prone to overspray.
Even with the “permanent” approach to the adhesive, I found I could peel the carpet off in sections and re-align a few times before getting the position just right.
Another thing I found… my universal solvent (petrol) did a good job of clearing up overspray of the adhesive on the pile side of the carpet, and… crucially… it did it without melting the carpet. It also worked well on the bodywork and chassis rails. I reasoned that anything that was meant to be installed that close to the fuel filler (bodywork, chassis AND carpet) was going to be petrol safe.
I had to do a little slicing and dicing on the firewall carpet around the transmission tunnel to get it to sit right. Just nicking the corners where the carpet met the tunnel was all I did. I was tempted to trim the carpet here but in the end I decided to leave that for another day – much easier to remove later than to add it again if I changed my mind.
Next up were the transmission tunnel walls. Again I went for a permanent adhesive approach, spraying both sides of the application area.
Then just a bit of trimming. As the tunnel top was going in and I’d tried a test fit… it seemed to be tight. So removing excess carpet from the top of the transmission tunnel seemed to make sense.
Another day over. I almost feel deflated that the major mechanical stuff has been done now. It seems to be cosmetics now. Though, of course, I may be counting my chickens before the fat lady has sung… I still need to start the engine and that might entail ripping everything apart again if it doesn’t work!
Another Sunday and today is a half day on the car. I was hoping to get the rear suspension all fitted and hopefully even get the wheels on!
Not much to this one. It’s a bit of a faff if you’re on your own though… the A-frame didn’t want to sit anywhere sensibly for me as I tried to attach either the front or rear mounts. In the end I attached the rear mounts to the De Dion tube first.
The A-frame fixes to the De Dion tube with an arrangement that has two tubes that surround the De Dion tube fixing point… one tube either side or the fixing point. At the bottom of each of these tubes is a recessed plate that bolts to the De Dion tube. Luckily I had enough sockets with long shafts and that were also narrow enough (I did have other sockets that didn’t fit) to fit down the tubes far enough to tighten up the bolt/nut. I also made sure I inserted the polythene washers supplied in the kit. The manual says to fit them if you have them… I had them so They got fitted!
Once the rear was in place I could loosely attach the front of the A-frame and then start measuring. I centred the frame on the chassis with a digital calliper by measuring the gaps between the De Dion ear mounts and the chassis (see below). You can do this because shifting the a-frame left and right also moves the De Dion tube left and right… theyre attached to each other, right! That told me how many washers to add on each side. It was a simple job then to insert the correct number of washers and tighten everything up. And… of course check the A-frame was central after tightening. I also made a mental note to check the measurements once the car was supported on the De Dion tube (either directly or because it was sitting on its wheels) and not supported on the chassis as it is now.
Rear Suspension Ears
For all the racket (noise) that’s going to come from the rear suspension (and specifically the diff) it seems odd that the car is engineered to have hearing… well it certainly has ears, though some of my friends and colleagues will attest to the two not always being correlated!
The “ears” are two machined aluminium plates that locate the rear suspension and hold the drive shafts and braking in place. These “ears” bolt to the De Dion tube at their rear and then take the rear wheel bearings at the front. The rear callipers are then bolted outboard of the ears and then surround the discs which are in-turn are attached to the drive shafts. The ears are sort of a floating mounting point for all the rear suspension.
Attaching the ears is another simple step but needed a little finessing to get them on… As I mentioned in a previous post, it looked as though the drive shafts weren’t fully inserted into the diff at my first attempt. Once I offered up the ears it was obvious that the drive shafts were poking out of the chassis too far.
Out with the rubber persuader and the drive shafts were “knocked” home.
Attaching the ears is a simple job of repeating their installation as per the dry-fit of the the De Dion tube on the bench. You just have to take care not to rush the job thinking that you know what you’re doing.
Rear Hubs, Wheel Bearings and Discs
It’s turning into a day of simple jobs…
I greased the inside of the wheel bearing and placed the hub, which holds the bearing, over the drive shafts. The bolts that hold the hub onto the ears pull the drive shaft partially into the bearing.
On the RHS you also have to attach the speedo sensor mounting bracket at this point.
The discs then slip over the drive shafts and are located with the castleated splines on the drive shafts. You then use the large nyloc drive shaft nut to pull the drive shafts fully into the bearing.
The 42mm nyloc drive shaft nuts need to be torqued up to 280Nm. That’ll be a job for when the handbrake is operational later on in the build – there wasn’t really any other practical way of me bracing the drive shafts against a 280Nm torque.
Rear Brake Callipers
The rear callipers then attach to the ears, remembering of course to put the brake pads into the callipers.
As the callipers go onto the car you also have to attach the drop links for the ARB.
Getting the callipers on was a little tricky. There’s not a lot of room to get a 15mm spanner in to tighten up the bolts at the back of the ears. I ended up having to grind down a spanner to fit.
It’s Wheely Good
We’re really getting there now. Front and rear suspension on… time for the wheels!
End of another good day… great progress now and thinking I should be looking to start the car soon.
After time for reflection over night and some blog reading…
Handbrake Cable… Again
Having seen a couple of pictures on other people’s blogs, it was clear that the handbrake cable adjustment screws should be located in the clip on the RHS of the diff. I’m not sure what I was thinking that it stay in the transmission tunnel – definite brain-fade there.
Once I’d decided where the adjustment screws went for the cable it was obvious that you have to used the bare middle section of the handbrake cable to feed the cable from the rear of the car into the transmission tunnel. You pull the thin middle section back behind the diff, slot it into the clip and then feed that and the thicker outer forwards into the transmission tunnel. Simple when you know how.
I left all the handbrake adjustment very loose so that the handbrake lever can be raised so it’s upright… this allows the transmission tunnel top to fit easily over the handbrake and gearstick.
Propshaft Bolts… Again
Another day, another screwdriver down the drain??
It seems some people wait until they can apply the handbrake before tightening the propshaft bolts. It’s also possible to lock the rear hubs with something across the wheel studs. But… I went back to the screwdriver method. Overnight I’d re-read that others had done this successfully and I was going to give it another go.
With my second least mankiest, crappiest, big screwdriver I went about trying to jam the propshaft in place again with the big screwdriver method. This time success. I was much more careful not to get the square section of the screwdriver rotated so it didn’t slip into the universal joint and jam against the chassis. All four bolts went in and got torqued up easily.
De Dion Tube – Dry Fit
In between my frustrations yesterday I’d also got the De Dion tube going. I did a lot of the dry fit yesterday but decided to write it up in one go today – that should make it easier for people who just want to read one post about the whole of one thing.
The dry run was fairly straight forward once I wrestled with the tube – but more on that in a minute.
I’ve read blogs where people get confused about what bolts go where on the rear hub/ear installation and how they attach to the De Dion tube and drive shafts. However, I found the manual to be perfectly adequate – I suspect the manual has been updated since those blogs were written. I had certainly read some posts where people had used some well annotated photographs showing what sized bolts went where. But I found that in the end I didn’t need them. It was pretty obvious from the build manual and the physical setup of the hubs which bolts to use.
You do get a lot of bits and pieces though!
What wasn’t so easy was finding a way of keeping the De Dion tube the right way up for the test fit. There is a triangular section protruding from the bottom of the De Dion tube where the A-frame attaches to it. This has to be pointing downwards so you can do all the work to fit the brake pipes on top of the tube. But of course that means that if you don’t hold the tube vertical it just wants to roll off the triangular section and not lay vertical.
I’d seen others use a Black and Decker workmate to clamp the a-frame mounting point and keep it pointing downwards. My workmate was buried in my office in the garden and so I tried to “make do”… big mistake. In the end I created two towers for the assembly to be clamped between (see below) but it would have been soooo much easier with a Workmate.
Once you have the rear ears and hub loosely fitted to the De Dion tube you have to dry fit the rear copper brake pipes. You fit brass brass t-piece and then the short and long pipes. I found I had to drill out the holes in the De Dion tube that take the rivets but that was fine, even after breaking the only imperial 1/8″ bit I had. 4mm seemed to work fine.
The shorter RHS brake pipe seemed to work out fine. I had bought some small diameter pipe benders but in the end didn’t use them. I found it just as easy to bend the pipe around a largish diameter socket – taking care of course not to pinch or kink the pipe. Somehow the RHS pipe all just slotted into place. The pipe bent nicely around the radius arm bracket and was clear it wouldn’t foul as the suspension moved.
I then put the LHS pipe in place and it looked as though it just wasn’t going to work. I eventually got it fitted but wasn’t happy about how the last section just seemed to take a short cut.
We’ll have to see how that works out in practice when we get the De Dion tube fitted. (Another) Big mistake. Should’ve taken more time on this one… but to my defence I didn’t know what it had to look like and so put up with a bad job!
Note from the future: Two problems here. Firstly the pipe needed to be bent so it was following the tube around the front of the radius arm fixing point (the two flanges). Secondly, the bend of the brake pipe closest to the t-piece was too tight. I had to make the zig-zag less shallow to give me more pipe to play with at the wheel end. And I had to do all of that with the De Dion etc all in the car! More on that when I get to that later.
It’s a simple job to fit the rear ARB bushes to the ARM… lots of PTFE lubricant and they slipped over with the help of a screwdriver.
I only loosely fitted the ARB chassis mounts. It seemed I might need to have a bit of wiggle room later when fitting hubs and tube. I’m not sure if I needed the wiggle but it was simple to tighten up the ARB mounts later.
Rear Flexible Brake Hose
Next up was to fit the rear flexible brake hose. It was a little tricky to get the screen wash pipe out of the way while attaching the flexible hose to the copper pipe going forwards but it was all perfectly do-able.
I’m still a little unsure about how the handbrake cable is going to route around the drive shafts, diff and flexible brake hose. I’m sure that will need some re-jigging when I get around to tidying things up later. So I’m in no rush to put any brake fluid into the car, and like the engine bay plumbing, I want to get everything onto the car and in the right place, with the right routing, before I put any fluids in. I was very glad of that approach in the engine bay and see no reason to rush fluids at the rear either.
Fitting d’De Dion tube
The last job today was to place the De Dion tube into the chassis… of course after removing all the loosely fitted rear hubs, callipers and mounting plates. The brake hose pipes are attached to the De Dion tube at this point so you have to be careful not to damage them as you slot the tube into the chassis.
The car is supported on axel stands resting on the chassis tubes. I put pipe lagging (from the engine bay) to protect the tube and rear chassis members and just lay the De Dion tube onto the lagging.
At this point it’s possible to fit the rear dampers and springs. Because I’d already fitted the Roll Over Bar, I was able to fit the rear dampers too. The manual seems to indicate you do this later because the roll over bar comes later. But IMHO, the roll over bar should be fitted before getting to the rear suspension. This is only a problem if you have the track roll over bar, seeing as there’s an extra bolt that goes up through the chassis and bodywork that you can’t get in once the damper is in place.
Solid Copper vs Flexible Brake Pipes
Note from the future: having talked a bit to some other builders it seems that some people like to replace the rear fixed copper brake pipes with flexible hoses running from the t-piece to the callipers. Caterham sell the parts and kit to do exactly this conversion, but only for the narrower S3 chassis. The conversion is a requirement for the race cars but is something road users also do. I suspect its required on the race cars because the flexible hoses offer greater protection to the braking system than the fragile copper pipes do. It also means you’re not bending copper pipes so much if you’re changing brake pads a lot. Unfortunately, they don’t do the parts or kit for an SV chassis. However, you can find web sites where the parts can be “built up” with the right couplings and threaded ends to the right length hose. I’ll do this at some point when I have time to drain the brake system and/or I need to change the rear pads… not particularly something for the short term unless I get bored over a winter.
The radius arms fit between the De Dion tube and holes in the bodywork/chasis at the rear of the door apertures.
The location of the radius arms at the front determines a ride harshness (I think) vs rear wheel control tradeoff. There are two holes that can be used for the Radius Arms at the rear of the door openings, an upper and a lower. The lower hole is for more of a track setup and the upper for road use. The lower hole is not fully drilled out so I decided to go with the simpler option and used the upper mounting holes. I waited to torque the bolts of the radius arms like the build manual recommends – the rear suspension needs to be bearing the weight of the car to correctly tension the suspension when the bolts are torqued.
Another one of those bitty weeks. Not much time to really get my teeth stuck into anything but got a couple of odd jobs done.
First off was a go at the battery earth leads….
There are three leads that I needed to take a look at:
Battery to engine
Chassis to engine
Battery to chassis
The build manual only talks about the first two of these connections. It says to attach the battery-to-engine earth lead from the battery to the bell housing. I guess this makes sense but I didn’t want to undo the bell housing bolts just to put an earth lead on.
There was a similar logic going on with the engine mount (LHS chassis) to engine earth lead. The manual suggests attaching this to the engine mount strut on the engine. That’s a perfectly sensible place to put it… and in the absolute cause of “adding lightness” I can see that using existing bolts for both the bell housing connection and the engine mount connection makes sense. However, two extra bolts is not going to break the bank so I decided to use existing empty holes in the LHS of the engine and to connect these two earth leads there instead.
I’d taken delivery of some M8 cap head bolts this week so it made sense to get these leads fixed up one evening (one was M8 the other M6).
A note from the future: after talking to Andrew Pepperrell about his build… he had got to the earth lead bit and wasn’t keen to undo his engine mounts to attach the lead either. He asked Caterham what to do and was told that the LHS engine mount earth lead was not strictly necessary. I can certainly see that having multiple connections to the chassis is not a requirement, but since I had decided to go with the belt and braces approach I didn’t see the need to remove anything.
There’s also the third battery lead to connect these days. The build manual doesn’t talk about this lead but I’d seen it connected on the few 420’s I’d managed to take a look at and I guess Caterham have their reasons. It c certainly would save the effort of stripping the paint away from the chassis engine mount. For this third lead it connects from the battery negative to a spare threaded hole where the pedal box would go on a left hand drive car, ie above my passenger side footwell.
To finish off the discussion about earth leads… I’ve talked about this before… A good earth to the chassis is cleary important – either directly via the LHS pedal box mount or indirectly through the battery to engine and then engine to chassis mount. However, the highest current path on the car is the circuit made up through the battery and starter motor. Therefore, its important to get low impedance (low resistance) connections from the battery to engine (earth connection) and the battery to starter motor (12v connection). The starter motor “earth’s” itself through its casing directly to the engine – so the current used by the starter motor to start the car flows from the battery positive terminal, through the cut-off switch, through the starter motor, then through the engine block and finally through the battery-to-engine earth lead back to the battery negative terminal.
For those readers that are not electrically minded that means you need nice thick red (12v) cables for the connections on the battery positive, through any cutoff switch and then to the starter motor. And… you need a nice thick black (0v) cable from the battery negative to the engine casing. In each of these connections the main failure points are the connections themselves, so while some of the terminals are soft copper, they do need to be tight. Not crazy tight… but the leads mustn’t be loose or else this will create a high resistance connection and the starter motor won’t get the current it needs and therefore won’t reliably start the car.
Another simple job was to sort out the oil connection from the triangular aluminium oil tank to the oil catch bottle now mounted on the LHS chassis rail near the radiators.
I’m not totally sure under what conditions this catch bottle comes into play. You’re supposed to connect this catch tank/bottle to the oil tank but also leave a hole in the bottle so it is open to the air. That means the oil system is running essentially at atmospheric pressure. So… I can’t see that there’s any pressure build up anywhere that would dump oil into this catch bottle.
Now I get to think about it… My current theory (and I’m totally open to being shot down here)… is that to keep things simple, the dry sump oil system only needs to run at something around atmospheric pressure. It also needs room for oil to expand into as it gets hotter. If you have expansion with no change in pressure then the volume has to change. i.e. the oil expands a little into the volume of the oil tank. If the oil system was not open to the air then pressure would increase as the oil got hotter. By putting a catch tank in you have a reservoir that’s removed from the main oil tank that is open to the air and means you don’t need any fancy pressure relief valves on the main oil tank. A consequence of this “open” system is that splashes of oil can reach the breather pipe at the top of the main oil tank and so you do end up with some oil ingress into the catch tank. We’ll see how much oil I actually get there and whether there is some scenario where oil is “forced” into the catch tank instead of just finding its way there.
Anyway, enough of the theorising… To connect the oil tank to the catch bottle I used a straight piece of hose from the J-hose left over from the water installation (28mm OD) and then drilled a 25mm hole in the top of the catch bottle.
I made sure the 28mm hose went down a long way into the catch bottle. A) to stop it from coming out (it’s not glued or fixed in any way) and B) to stop any splashing of the oil I’m not expecting to end up in there!
So, I connected the 28mm OD hose from the main oil tank to the catch bottle through the snug 25mm hole I’d cut with a wood spade drill bit. I then pulled off the hose that came with the catch bottle. This is about 500mm long and is a friction fit through the supplied centre cap on the bottle…. I’ll use this after the IVA test to duct fumes from the oil catch tank down under the car, but for the moment that would be an IVA fail… i.e. I think, if you have a pipe from the catch tank pointing at the road… then no matter how unlikely it is… there is a chance that oil could be dumped from the main oil tank, into the catch bottle and then out of the breather pipe and onto the road… very James Bond.
I have heard people complain that having the catch bottle vent directly into the engine bay can cause oil fumes to get into the passenger compartment. So, venting those fumes under the car makes sense, but can’t be done until IVA is over.
A note to non-regular readers: IVA stands for Individual Vehicle Approval and is an approximate 4 hour government test of a kit car (in this instance) to make sure it’s road-worthy before I can apply for it’s registration documents.
One final practical point here… having taken the hose out of the catch bottle that it came with, I didn’t like the fact that there was such a big hole left in the top of the bottle (the cap is still there though). So, I took one of the “bungs” that was protecting the heater unit from getting crud in it during shipping and stuffed that into the hole in the oil catch bottle cap. I pierced the bung to keep the whole system at atmospheric pressure but it all just looked a lot neater that way.
I’ve seen recent Caterham builds use a different cap on top of the bottle… with four small (~4mm??) holes in the cap. But… I couldn’t find a cap like that in my kit (with or without the holes) so I made do with the existing cap and the heater bung.
There’s a Hole in My Oil Tank, My Oil Tank, My Oil Tank…
I’ve probably mentioned this before but I was in a quandary as to what to do about a clear oil system failure at the bottom of the oil tank.
Clearly oil was just going to gush out of the hole pictured below and I couldn’t see anything in the build manual about what to do about it, nor could I find anything to plug the hole.
I’d read in the father and son blog that they had found a suitable bolt/set-screw and plugged the hole that way – with a copper washer no less. However, the thread seemed to be something other than a metric thread and I couldn’t find anything to fit from my collected junk (all essential, if my wife’s reading this!).
A quick email to Derek Howlett and he told me that this hole is used on the racing cars to fit an oil temperature sensor and is connected to the loom (connections which I don’t seem to have). He said that they usually stick a dummy sensor in there to plug the hole for non-race car installs.
Well that explains another conundrum… in one of the cardboard boxes there was a spare temperature sensor. I’d assumed this was accidentally included with my kit and was supposed to be used on the water circuit if I hadn’t already got a water sensor connected. Ahhh…. its the dummy sensor for the oil tank… I see.
If I’d have thought about this some more then I would have also added some PTFE tape to the sensor threads just to make sure there was a good seal. I’d read somewhere that these sensors have a tapered threaded section and so don’t need the tape. Whatever… I was too eager and added the sensor in my haste to get a job done. By the time I remembered about using tape on the threads I had already added oil and there were no leaks from the sensor and so no harm done (for the moment).
Reroute 5/16″ Water Expansion Hose
Ok, so if you remember, I’d routed the 5/16″ water expansion hose as per the manual – from the expansion bottle, round the LHS (cold) side of the engine and then back around the back of the engine into a connection on the rear RHS of the cylinder block. This route didn’t take up all of the 5/16 hose but nearly all of it.
All the other builds I’d seen have taken this hose straight across the top of the primaries and cable tied it (if you’re lucky – on some builds I’ve seen it just dangles) to the rear cylinder head oil breather pipe.
I’d decided at this point that I was going to need the spare pipe that could be liberated by routing the 5/16 hose over the primaries – the spare is used to shroud the braided clutch hose and the braided brake hose at the rear of the car.
However, on the 5/16th pipe, I don’t just like using cable ties to lock things down. I know I’m going to have to do a lot of that later when I tidy up the engine bay, but it wrankles. So, I came up with a scheme to use two pairs of p-clips to attach the 5/16 hose to the oil breather pipe. It seemed to work out well, but we’ll see what happens at PBC and IVA – I’m a little nervous of this one.
[ A paragraph will appear here if it gets changed at either PBC or IVA]
This should have been a simple job… but… it wasn’t. I tried to do it late one night and clearly I wasn’t firing on all four cylinders.
The handbrake cable is one long cable housed in a spiral metal sheath. There are hooks at each end where the cable hooks onto the rear callipers and there’s a break in the sheath in the middle where the inner cable loops around a pulley attached to the handbrake lever. The handbrake operates by pulling on the inner cable and therefore operating the rear callipers. While the inner cable is pulled by the handbrake lever, the outer cable remains stationary and is what is fixed to the chassis of the car. The outer cable is also there to protect the inner cable from abrasion – either from it rubbing as the suspension goes up and down, or from the handbrake being operated. I can also imagine that the outer sheath is there to protect a critical safety system (the brakes) from getting severed if a rock or debris, kicked up from the road, were to hit the cable. The connection from the handbrake lever to the cable is made with a clevis – which is essentially a u-shaped piece of metal (shaped like a tuning fork) and a wheel that can spin in the “u”. The wheel and handbrake lever are attached to the clevis with pins retaining pins and split turns holding them in place.
By the way… the clevis and wheels etc were in my poly bag marked “axle pack”. However, I found the split pins in the miscellaneous poly bag.
The bit that I got stuck on was where the outer part of the cable is retained in the chassis. On the LHS of the car there’s a yellow retaining plug that obviously sits in a clip in the transmission tunnel at the base of the rear firewall. There’s a similar clip location on the RHS of the transmission tunnel and I got it in my head that the handbrake adjustment screw should locate in there.
There’s also a retaining clip on the diff but I couldn’t see how to feed the handbrake cable into it. After a lot of pushing and shoving sort of got the RHS handbrake adjuster into the clip at the base of the firewall… but it didn’t seem right. Need to rethink…. hmmm.
Fluid for the Diff
So, one of the downsides of trying to fill the diff with fluid after installing the diff is that there’s not a great deal of room behind the diff – between the diff and the fuel tank.
My 14mm Allen keysocket wouldn’t fit in behind Diff with ratchet on it. The allen key set I had bought from Amazon some months ago had quite long shafts on them and the combined length of the allen key and socket wrench was about 106mm. It wouldn’t even fit into the hex bolt on the back of the diff. I could grind the 14mm allen key down in length but I’d rather have kept it intact. I asked two neighbours including Pete, the Lotus guy…. neither had anything bigger than 12mm.
So, another trip to Halfords… Which was fruitless…! Halfords had some expensive socket sets that looked like they had a shortish 14mm allen key but I had one already that would be a lot cheaper just to modify. I also thought I’d pick up some spare Diff fluid while I was there along with some hose and a funnel to fill the Diff with. I failed… no allen key, hose and diff fluid but I did find some cheap funnels at B&Q.
So, nothing for it but to cut off the end of the 14mm I already had. I started with a “re” (reciprocating) saw but finished with a metal cutting disc on a Dremel. I cut about 16mm off the end of the key I had.
On my car there is ~105mm between the front of the petrol tank and the rear of the diff casing. Allowing for the 12mm depth of the diff drain plug you need your Allen key to be sticking out of the drain plug by no more than around 90mm – including any socket ratchet etc.
Filling the Diff
I tried to find some plastic piping while I was out at Halfords – even went into B&Q. I found some cheap funnels that were cleaner and less unwieldy than the one I had but no tubing.
So, when I got home I decided I’d use the spare length of 5/16th fuel line hose that Derek had sent me for the water expansion bottle – this spare length of hose came about from routing the water expansion bottle over the hot side of the engine instead of around the cold side (see above). The two future uses I had for this spare tube were not going to be taking fluids and I guessed that whatever “synthetic differential fluid” is made of it wouldn’t be a problem to fuel hose.
I set up the funnel and tube and started to poor. The funnel I chose was a little small but it fitted into the hose better than the larger ones so I had to spend more time filling but it probably wasn’t much slower.
The manual talks about filling the diff with 1.1L of oil. I presume that if the last 100ml was a problem then Caterham would have actually supplied 1.1L instead of the 1L container. I’ll try and remember to confirm that with Derek when I next find a reason to email him.
After the diff had taken the whole 1L I left it for half and hour or so for all the dregs of the fluid to run down the hose. It’s better to be in the diff than washed out and wasted.
A “little-finger” test (that’s using my little finger to test the fluid level and not meant to imply that the test was little) seemed to show the fluid level to be a few millimetres below the plug hole…. that’ll do for the moment.
According to the container, the fluid contains olefin sulfide and alkyl amine. The bottle warns that this can produce an allergic reaction. I had no problem with it on my skin, though I was carful not to get too much splashed around. However, filling the diff sent up a very strong smell of rotten eggs, given off from the sulphur content and it made me nauseous. I’m not sure its creating hydrogen sulphide, but it does smell like it.
When I was done I washed the fuel hose out with some universal solvent (a.k.a petrol) which seemed to do the trick at flushing the hose.
Ok. so today was not going to plan. What with the handbrake cable and now the propshaft bolts… things weren’t going as smoothly as I’d planned.
The propshaft bolts simply bolt through a flange on the back of the prop-shaft and into threaded holes on the front of the differential. You use some loctite to make sure they don’t come out.
However, as you turn these bolts, so does the propshaft. I tried putting the car into gear but the gearbox just didn’t seem to want to engage a gear. The only gear that went in was 5th and that jumped out as soon as I turned the prop. I’ll have to take a look at that at another time too.
I also tried jamming a screwdriver into the universal joint at the rear of the prop-shaft and tightening the bolt up against an opposite force on the screwdriver. But the screwdriver kept slipping… and… then… … … it jammed.
I was using the mankiest (that’s a good british word), crappiest, big screwdriver I had. It has a square shaft that’s great for getting a spanner on when a screw won’t shift, but in this instance the square section resolutely jammed itself between a chassis rail and the inner workings of the universal joint.
I tried all sorts of to-ing and fro-ing of the screwdriver and propshaft. But to no avail. The screwdriver wasn’t coming out.
After a cup of tea and a think… there was nothing for it. I was going to have to cut the screwdriver out.
Out with the dremel and 5 minutes later I had a much shorter screwdriver.
Ok, that’s enough of that… I submit… I’ll take a look at the propshaft bolts another day.
By the way, if I can get to the point where I actually have the bolts installed, I’m using Loctite 270, high strength, for the propshaft. Can’t be too careful about the propshaft bolts coming out!
Next up is fitting the drive shafts. Simple job. They are handed and drop straight into the diff once the red plastic stoppers have been removed from the diff. They didn’t seem to go fully home but I’ll take a look at that in the morning.
That wasn’t quite the end of a relatively long day, but I’ll cover the De Dion tube in one go in the next post. Some success, some failure. More of the former tomorrow I hope.
Ok, so this post is a bit of a cheat. I actually put the prop-shaft and differential into the car yesterday… but it seemed to make sense to lump all these activities together in a single post.
Before we get to that though, and just to get me going today, I decided to have a look at the accelerator cable tension. There are many posts and discussions about this being too long and the need to bend the accelerator pedal shaft to take up the slack.
It’s a trivial job, take out the cable from the accelerator pedal upper shaft and bend the shaft. I used the approach talked about in the build manual: find a suitable philips or pozi screwdriver and insert it in the upper shaft. Then brace the lower half of the pedal against the rear pedal stop (I cut a length of wood to the right size) and bend the shaft. Most of the movement seemed to be at the joint of the upper shaft with the rest of the assembly – but that seemed ok.
It was a case of bend a bit, test the cable tension, bend a bit more, test the tension etc. I expect to have to tweak this some more once the engine is running and I can set the throttle stop position.
A quick test fit of the pedals by sitting in the car seems to show that the accelerator pedal is too far off to the right in the pedal box. I won’t be able to heel-and-toe with this setup. That’ll be another tweak after IVA, but this time to the lower accelerator pedal shaft.
As far as I could tell, installing the prop-shaft should have been a quick and easy task. While easy, it turned out not to be quick.
On first offering up the prop to the transmission tunnel from the back of the car (it has to be fed in from the rear of the car, so no chance of doing this once the diff is in place) it became apparent that it wasn’t going to go in without a fight. The universal joint at the gearbox end of the shaft was catching on the side panels of the transmission tunnel.
The prop has standard universal joint setups at both ends that have two U’s holding an inner cross. The U’s are a larger diameter than the shaft itself and the joint on the gearbox end of the assembly just would not go down the transmission tunnel, no matter how I rotated the shaft. Rotating helps because the universal joint has a square cross section and as you rotate the shaft there is a minimum width it achieves – when the cross is at 45 degrees to the horizontal/vertical. Even with this jiggling, it caught on the the transmission tunnel side panels, just behind where the handbrake sits. At this point there are recesses pressed into the panels that encroach into the tunnel. I can’t see that these recesses do anything to add extra passenger room, maybe on a narrower S3 chassis they give a little more space around your hips if you have the tillet seats… but that’s a wild guess. Maybe they’re there to stop the side panels from vibrating???
I did wonder if the prop shaft needs to be fed into the tunnel by first feeding the differential end in from half way along the tunnel. The idea being to feed it in just behind the hand brake, backwards towards the rear of the car. Then once its lift up into place, bring it forwards again into the gearbox. But that clearly doesn’t work as the plate on the differential end is much too large to go down the tunnel as well.
The only way I could see to get the prop shaft in was as I first thought… feed it in from the rear of the car down the whole length of the transmission tunnel.
So, I then thought I’d try and spread the recessed parts of the transmission tunnel panels to give some extra room where it was catching. The large clamps I have were too big to get into the tunnel and I ended up trying to use some small Maplin clamps in their expanding configuration. Unfortunately, this didn’t work, the clamps were just too feeble and it made little to no difference. I thought I could probably come up with some other way of spreading the panels but then decided I was over thinking all of this…
So, there was nothing for it but to use some persuasion. I mounted the prop shaft as far down the tunnel as it would go, then a few hefty clouts with a rubber mallet and the prop shaft moved past blockage and was then easily fed into the rear of the gearbox. It scratched the sides of the transmission tunnel on the way through but nothing cosmetic there so I didn’t worry about fixing the scratches.
It was late in the day on Saturday now but I wanted to at least get the diff hung on its top chassis mounts.
And this is where it goes.
For this job I was going to need another pair of hands, its definitely not a one person job the way I did it.
I can imagine you could do it by yourself if you had an engine hoist lifting the diff through the hole in the boot and with the wooden floor removed. But… you would need to create some sort of cradle for the diff to sit in so it’s vaguely sitting level.
So, I enlisted Joe’s help and we got to work.
I had already measured the distance from the floor to the top diff chassis mounting points and worked out that our trolley jack wasn’t going to be tall enough to lift the diff into position. The trolley jack lifts up to 504mm but it was a couple of cm short of being tall enough. You also have to remember that these jacks start to operated almost horizontally (pulling the car sideways) at the top of their travel.
I could have lowered my axel stands one or two notches to help here but I decided I wanted as much space as possible to work under the car. If I was doing this again I probably would just temporarily drop the car down so I didn’t have to worry about the blocks of wood balanced on the jack. Some people have placed the jack on some wood but I wanted the jack to be as mobile as possible while we manoeuvred the diff into place and I hadn’t got enough large sheets of ply-wood to hand that could raise the diff but keep the manoeuvrability. Our solution was to put three pieces of wood, taped together, on top the jack.
With Joe operating the jack and me under the car, keeping the diff balanced on the wood (and the jack), Joe could put a large screwdriver through the top bushes and diff. We got there in about 15 minutes. The diff on top of the jack was pretty precarious but I didn’t have any big fear of it falling, its heavy, but not that heavy, it just needed patience.
That was it for the evening, and as with all good dramas, we need to leave the audience at the end of each show with a diff-hanger (sorry couldn’t refuse that one!). End of the day…
But is it…? During the night, or more precisely the early hours of the next morning, I had a revelation. I had been wondering, since first opening the kit’s cardboard boxes, what this was…
… and having spent a bit of time now zipping around on the crawler under the car I had recently been wondering how on earth this hole (showing gear teeth) between the engine and the bell housing, could be right…
And then finally I had an epiphany in the early hours… and realised the mystery object was a blanking/skid plate to cover the hole. Ah-ha! That was going to be the first job in the morning!
It’s, Sunday, another day but not another session. For the most part I’ve had one session per day, but I realise that’s making for a lot of posts. I thought today that I’d stick today’s session in with yesterday’s. It’s only a half day today so that should be ok.
But back to the skid plate. It all made perfect sense now. This blanking/skid plate was obviously made to fill the height difference, and hole, between the sump and bell housing. I just hadn’t heard of this in any blogs, or forum threads, so didn’t put two and two together – boy am I slow!
When I tried to put this mystery object to work, it didn’t fit. If you look carefully at the picture of the bell housing above (with the geared cog showing through the gap), you can see that the holes on the left and the right of the bell housing have slightly different amounts of the hole showing. There is less of a full circle showing of the right side hole in the picture (which is on the LHS of the car with this picture taken looking backwards). There wasn’t enough of this hole showing.
The skid plate is attached with two bolts that go forwards through the bell housing and into threaded holes in the skid plate. With this right hand hole the bolt would go through the bell housing but wouldn’t pick up on its thread in the skid plate. And no matter how hard I pushed and wiggled the bolt it wouldn’t catch the thread…. bummer!
What to do?
I now thought it might be possible that when I’d attached the engine to the bell housing, that I might have got the two slightly miss-aligned – i.e. the bell-housing and the engine rotated around their long axis relative to each other. This only needed to be less than a mm to not give me enough clearance for this hole.
Hmmm. I really, really, really, didn’t fancy undoing the engine to bell housing bolts. If I’d have known this before putting the engine into the car then I’d have fitted the skid plate then and all would have been good. I could have fitted this plate while the bell-housing and gearbox were loosely attached and made sure there was enough room to get it tightened up. It just didn’t occur to me that this widget went where it does.
So… did I mention that I really didn’t want to undo the engine to bell housing bolts now? Well I didn’t. As I write this a few weeks later (yes I am that far behind with these blogs) I would perhaps feel more confident about doing this but at the time I wasn’t keen. So, what to do?
I did what anyone would have done. I made-do. I decided that if I shaved some material off the top of the skid plate then the plate would sit higher and the bolt would catch the thread. I clearly didn’t want to play around with the holes in the bell housing and it seemed that the least expensive thing to replace was the skid plate if I screwed it up.
So, out with the orbital sander…
Trim some material off the top LHS of the skid plate…
Fit the skid plate…
It seems to me (ISTM) that this widget performs a couple of tasks. Number 1, it stops crap from getting into the bell housing – that’s gotta be a good idea. Number 2, it protects the bell housing from getting bashed when going over speed bumps and the like – its the lowest part of the car and is gonna get bashed… another good idea.
With the car currently sitting on axel stands… the skid plate is 10mm lower than the lowered floors (the next lowest point on the car). However, the bolts protruding from the seat-rail fixings that go through the floor and poke out into this air under the car, would probably also be about the same height off the ground as the skid plate. I’ve also heard people talk about how those seat bolts create sparks out of the back of the car when the car bottoms out in dips in the road. Hmmm.
But I digress….
This skid plate was meant to be a 5 minute job. But in the end turned into more like an hour. Trying to fit the plate, deciding to modify it, attempting to file the material off the plate, realising that that was going to take forever because the material used is actually designed to put up with something like a file scratching against it (obviously – duh!), getting out the orbital sander, trial fitting a few times… an hour in the end.
De-Differencing the Diff
On with the rest of the day.
I’d left you with a diff-hanger from the night before and so today was going to start with getting the diff centred and all bolted in.
The build manual talks about centring the diff by measuring the distance from either side of the diff carrier to the respective outside edges of the square chassis rail section where the rear ARB mounts. That sounded complicated in the manual too… but its obvious really when you get to look at it in person.
I don’t usually need an excuse, but I thought I’d pull out a gadget here… and decided to use a laser measurer. I set up a couple of steel rules and clamps, as reference points, and then used a laser measurer to get an accurate reading to the diff carrier (the BMW supplied Limited Slip Diff (LSD) has a Caterham specific carrier fitted to allow it fitted into a standard chassis without modifying the chassis or the LSD).
The idea here is to centre the diff using washers as spacers in between the diff carrier mounting points and the chassis mounting bushes. My way to do this was to use the laser measurer to get a measurement the same on both sides but with no washers installed. Once the diff was centred I then measured the gaps between the diff and the respective mounting points using callipers. I then worked out how many washers I needed on each side to fill the gaps.
After nudging the diff left and right as it hung on the screwdriver I ended up at 491mm as my measurement on both sides. And just to make sure my high tech approach was not giving me a false reading, I asked Stanley…
(For those of you that are not in the UK… Stanley is a popular make of tape-measure over here).
Now… remember we have a screwdriver in the top mounts and so we’re only worrying about the lower mounting points at the moment.
The next problem was that with the screwdriver only roughly locating the top mountings, these lower diff mounting points didn’t line up with the holes in the diff carrier. One side was ok but the other was a couple of mm out. So, I put the bolt into the mount that did line up and then I broke out the trolley jack again and set it under other carrier mount point and jacked it into position. That was the two lower mounts done.
I ended up with two washers on the LHS mount and three on the RHS.
I then checked the diff was still centred…. yep, reading 490mm on both sides now… that’s good enough for me. Now for the top mounts and to measure the gaps…
… and worked out we needed 1 washer on the LHS and 3 on the RHS.
It struck me at this point that I might need to worry about the diff being twisted. If I’d ended up with these washer calculations the other way around… i.e. if the 3 washers were needed on the LHS top then I might have got the diff in slightly twisted… but with 3 washers on both the top and bottom RHS I was satisfied that this was unlikely.
The top of the diff is held in with a single 11″ bolt that goes all the way through both sides of the diff and its mounting bushes. I ended up using this bolt to displace the screwdriver holding the diff in place and to bash in the bolt and push the screwdriver out. The holes in the diff carrier weren’t aligned with the top mounting bushes particularly well so as I hammered the bolt in, the trolley jack came out again to lift the diff a few mm to ease the alignment. Keeping the washers in place as the single bolt went in was a little fiddly but the copper-ease caked on everything tended to stick things where I put them.
A quick check to see if the diff is still centred and we’re good still at 490mm on both sides.
That was the end of a Sunday morning getting the differential fitted. It was off to watch Joe’s footie in the afternoon and so the next major session will be on the De Dion tube and the rear suspension.
This is a post from the future and a rather technical one at that – so stop reading now if that’s a big turn off for you 🙂 Having got the engine running I thought it would be a useful addition to the blog to have a diagram of the engine water and oil plumbing. The plumbing’s not that difficult in the end but I struggled to get the whole thing in my head from the build manual.
But what sort of diagram? I’ve seen people blog a sort of “schematic” view of the pipework – somewhere between a cross section of the engine bay and a components/pipework view. And while that’s great I thought I wanted something, hopefully, even easier to understand. I also thought there’s two ways of looking at this – the very literal, physical way of looking at it (perhaps 3D) and then the very abstract, theoretical way of looking at it (a schematic). So, I thought I’d do both…
Please let me know if I’ve got anything wrong in this post… I’ll be very happy to correct any mistakes or misunderstandings on my part.
Animated 3D Model of Water and Oil
So… here’s an animated 3D CAD model of how the plumbing on our 420R SV, with Heater and dry-sump, ended up. There may be more optimal pipe routing, but this is where we got to. You should be able to click the video to enlarge it on whatever device you’re using.
… and here’s a couple of labeled diagrams to help with the animation…
The Water Circuit Schematic
There are essentially four parallel paths to the water circuit on our car, all are in parallel with each other but have different diameter hoses and therefore different flow rates:
Heater water loop
The Expansion Loop
Water Radiator loop
Because I’m an electronics guy, I like to think of water circuits like electrical circuits, so here’s the way I like to think of this car’s water flow (the wider the pipe in the diagram, the greater the flow – there are all sorts of other factors that go into flow rates so I’m not going to try and quantify that statement, there is a lot of material on the web about laminar and turbulent water flow through pipes and all the factors that go into that):
Now lets look at each of the four parallel water paths…
Water Heater Loop
The water heater loop runs from the back of the cylinder head to the thermostat via the J-hose, then the temperature sensor (submarine), the heater (optionally included using the heater control valve) and finally the t-piece.
When the driver operates the Bowden cable to open the heater valve, water flows through the heater element. When the heater valve is closed the heater is bypassed.
Water Expansion Loop
The water expansion loop is in parallel with all the other loops and connects the back of the cylinder head with the thermostat through the 5/16th” hose, the expansion bottle and the t-piece. There is limited “flow” of water in this loop because of the reduced diameter of the 5/16th” hose. This loop is used to provide a compressible air gap in the expansion bottle for hot water to expand into.
The cap on the water expansion bottle also provides a safety valve in case the water in the engine gets too hot and the cap will vent and relieve the pressure in the system to prevent, for instance, a gasket or hose bursting with excess pressure – not a good situation to be in!
To help getting the engine up to temperature faster and to better regulate engine temperature the Duratec engine has a short hose connecting the back of the cylinder head to the water pump, through the thermostat assembly.
I’ll talk some more about the thermostat later but the thermostat is arranged so that water either flows through the recirculating loop or the radiator loop – the thermostat switches between the two. Water flows in the recirculating loop when the thermostat is below its operating temperature and in the water radiator loop when above its operating temperature. This isn’t a binary thing though… It takes a range of something like 10-15C for the thermostat to fully activate. During this temperature range both the recirculating loop and the radiator loop are passing coolant – at varying flow rates dependant upon how “open” the thermostat is.
Water Radiator Loop
Again, this loop is in parallel with the other three loops but is switched into the circuit once the engine block temperature reaches the thermostat’s opening temperature. Once the thermostat reaches this temperature it’s valve opens and water is allowed to flow through the water radiator. The construction of the thermostat and how its placed in the block effectively switches coolant flow from the recirculating loop (at low engine temperatures) to the radiator loop (at high engine temperatures).
Even after the thermostat has “opened” the radiator loop (and “closed” the recirculating loop) water will carry on flowing in the heater loop and the expansion loop. It’s not obvious to me how the relative flow rates change when this happens… the recirculating loop pipe is short and narrow in comparison to the top and bottom radiator hose which are long and wide. Flow rate is a complex calculation and ISTM that the recirculating loop and radiator loop probably have similar flow rates – therefore not affecting the other two loops when the thermostat is open or closed… but that’s just a hunch (if anyone can suggest a way of proving or disproving that hunch then I’d love to hear from you).
What’s the Thermostat Assembly About Then?
The thermostat assembly on a Duratec engine is essentially a wax operated valve. A pellet of wax operates a valve with two springs working in oposition to the wax. When the wax melts is expands and moves an armature to an open, high temperature position, where the radiator loop is opened and closes the recirculating loop. The springs then move the armature back to it’s low temperature position when the coolant temperature drops and the wax contracts when it solidifies.
There are essentially three water inputs and one output on the thermostat housing assembly as follows:
Heater and expansion input – this input takes coolant from the t-piece and which is always flowing. It’s the smaller pipe on the outside of the thermostat housing (the pipe on the bottom left of the picture above)
Recirculating input – this one’s a bit odd. There’s a pipe feeding into the cavity behind thermostat housing but which is not part of the assembly shown in the picture above. This pipe is part of the cylinder block. The flow from this pipe is either allowed or disallowed by the operation of the thermostat. When the thermostat is in the high temperature position the flow of coolant from the recirculating pipe is closed. When the thermostat is in the low temperature position, recirculating flow happens.
Radiator Loop input – this input to the thermostat comes from the larger of the two pipes on the outside of the thermostat housing. When the thermostat is in it’s high temperature position, coolant is allowed to flow through the radiator into the thermostat cavity and then on into the block and head.
Thermostat output – while there looks to be no output from this assembly, when it’s installed in the block a cavity is formed between the thermostat housing and the inside of the block. This cavity, leading to the rest of the engine, essentially creates an output from the thermostat assembly.
Below are two diagrams, one showing the arrangement of the thermostat in it’s low temperature position and one diagram showing the arrangement in it’s high temperature position. It takes 10 to 15 degrees C for the thermostat to move between the two states.
Here’s a diagram of the thermostat in cross section (side view) on its own:
Now lets add the thermostat and housing into the cylinder block and see what happens at low then high temperatures.
Cylinder Head Temperature vs Submarine Temperature
What’s the Fan for?
At even higher temperatures than the thermostat operating temperature, the water radiator fan turns on to provide cooling. The fan is only needed when the car is stationary or in slow traffic – because a moving car will have more cooling provided by airflow through the front nose-cone grill than the fan can deliver…. there’s a lot of air flow with a car travelling at say 20mph, try that speed on a bicycle to test the difference between that speed and what the water radiator fan can do.
I’m no aerodynamicist but it seems clear that as the car is moving forwards air passes through the radiator and then out from the engine bay from under the car or through the bonnet louvres. There is of course some sort of “wing effect” going on and it wouldn’t be surprising to find there’s positive upwards pressure under the engine bay and so the louvres are more effective than might otherwise be thought. It will be interesting to put pressure sensors on a car and see what they can tell us about these air flows.
In order to calculate how effective the fan is we can do some arm-waving…
… in rough terms…
The fan on a Caterham generates an airflow of around 1360m3/h (when the car is stationary – from the SPAL website), or 0.3778m3/s.
Now, the frontal cross section of a Seven 420R radiator is approx 430mmx195mm (I’ve removed any area associated with the oil radiator which I’ll discuss later). This works out to be an airflow of 0.0839m3/s at 1m/s, i.e the volume swept by the area of the radiator at 1m/s. So, at what speed does forward motion of the car work out to be equivalent to the fan throughput, well that’s just the forward velocity of the car when it reaches the same throughput as the fan… ie. 0.3778/0.839 = 4.5m/s or approx. 10mph.
So a car travelling above 10mph will have more cooling effect coming from its forward motion than from a running fan. As you can see the fan is only really needed at very low speeds. Sure, when the fan is on it is helping the cooling but even at slowish speeds of say 30mph, the fan is doing less than 25% of the work – not to mention that the fan’s effectiveness reduces significantly if air is being forced past it (I haven’t done that calculation but there’s going to be a speed at which the fan actually stops providing any cooling effect and in fact will start to just reduce cooling because its getting in the way).
What this calculation doesn’t take into account… I haven’t taken into account the following, partly because I didn’t think it affected the figures or because the same restrictions apply to both the fan and forward motion throughputs.
The grill on the front of the car will reduce airflow (affects fan and motion)
The aerodynamics of the car may create a high pressure effect under the car (sort of reverse ground effect due to the bodywork creating an inverted wing) and may stop air exiting the engine bay from under the car
The oil radiator is both restricting air flow but also adding additional heat to the system.
The difference in area of the fan vs the overall area of the radiator. This is probably less than you’d think because of edge effects at the far edges of the radiator in forward motion – the centre of the radiator will have better air flow and therefore both the fan and forward motion may have the same effective cross sectional area.
All in all, my finger waving, back-of-a-fag-packet calculation could be wildly out, say +50%/-%200. But, I hope, the reality is that these calculations show that even at relatively low car speeds the fan is not going to be doing a great deal to add to the cooling from the car moving forwards.
I hope I’ve managed to a) get my had waving calculations right, and b) been able to explain it in reasonable terms for you all to understand. If anyone knows a better approach to these calculations or can suggest where I’m going wrong then please leave a comment and I’ll do my best to update this page – the last thing I want is for this to be worth less than the paper its printed on :-).
The Oil Circuit
The oil circuit is much, much simpler than the water circuit. Oil is scavenged from the sump and sent to the top of the oil tank through the oil radiator. Oil is then taken from the bottom of the oil tank back into the sump’s oil input. Simples.
PS: Big thanks to Andrew Pepperrell for being a guinea-pig with these diagrams and being so positive. Also, thanks to all those who commented on the Caterham Techtalk Facebook group and made suggestions.
Now back from the US and the after effects of hurricane Irma… I have some more time to get on with the build. I’d left the project at the point where I really needed to get on with the engine bay plumbing and I’d laid all the hoses out in the engine bay prior to the trip. The 5/16th” water expansion bottle hose was missing from the kit but while I was in the US I’d emailed Derek and the hose had arrived while I was away… so first task was Water Expansion Bottle.
Water Expansion Bottle
I’d mentioned before that I wanted to get the bracket for this bottle sorted in my mind and where it was going to go – that had led me to test fitting the bonnet and the nose cone to test that where I wanted to the expansion bottle was going to fit under the bonnet.
So, now I have that set I drilled the holes for the rivets (no rivnuts here) and removed the cable ties that are going to get in the way. I’ll have to re-tie the cables later.
I decided that I wanted to the rivets to sit vertically on the rails and not have to drill diagonally into the rails. That meant I had to open up the two outboard holes in the bracket. I’d set the bracket on the chassis rails so the inboard holes could be left alone, but that meant slots needed to be created in the outboard ones.
Now for another conundrum… or two conundrums actually. Firstly, what orientation should the expansion bottle be. Secondly, where to route the 5/16th” cable from the water bottle to the back of the cylinder head.
In most of the builds I’ve seen, the water expansion bottle is placed so that the 5/16th hose comes out directly rearwards. That means the main water hose can come out of the front-right of the bottle towards the front right chassis corner. However, while this config means the 5/16th hose routes easily across the top of the hot side of the engine, it also means the main water hose has to bend a long way backwards to get back across the front of the engine bay.
The other complexity here is that he build manual talks about routing the 5/16th” hose around the front and then the cold side of the engine and then back around the back of the engine. That makes sense I guess, the primaries are going to get really hot and any water in the 5/16th hose is going to be really really hot as it sits in that pipe. Hmmm.
So, I decided to site the water bottle with the 5/16th outlet pointing directly rearwards. However, I would try routing the hose as suggested in the manual… easier to do this while the hose was long rather than cutting it down and then realising I wanted it routed differently ;-).
Now to route the hoses and see what I think of that.
Hmmm… if using all the hose up was an objective, then I certainly achieved that.
The other thing to add to the equation here is that I’ve seen posts and pictures of Caterham built cars where some of this 5/16th fuel hose (it’s actually labelled as fuel hose) is used as a shroud for the braided clutch hose and also in some cases to protect the rear brake hose from abrasion too.
Hmmm… (again)… I’m going to need to re-route this 5/16th hose around the hot side I think and give myself some spare hose for other tasks.
Onto something else while I ponder that one though…
Time to fit the heater… I’d had it sat loosely in the car for a couple of weeks but it was now time to figure out how the plumbing was going to work and how the heater control valve gets connected up.
First job was to finally bolt the heater in place.
In order to get the heater pipework in I decided I needed to get more of the rest of the plumbing in place too. It was a case of “a bit here, a bit there”. Next I installed the T-piece that goes into the water inlet on the front of the engine.
Next up I need to work out how the J-hose runs from the back of the cylinder head (next to the 5/16th expansion bottle hose) and connects to the lower heater control valve connection. This run of hose also needs to get cut and the water temperature (submarine) inserted inline. So… now I need to figure out where to position the submarine.
There are lots of pictures of people installing the submarine into a Seven engine bay. The way that Caterham seem to do it now is as follows:
Connect the J-hose to the rear of the cylinder head (there’s only one port of the right size, the other one is for the 5/16th water expansion hose)
Run the J-hose under the cylinder head ports
Place the submarine inline towards the left hand side of the car
Run the LHS of the submarine to the lower heater control valve port.
I’ve seen various people post about how to connect the earth (threaded post) to the spade connector (green and blue lead) on the loom. My kit also came with the temperature sensor connected but dangling on the spade connector (black and yellow lead). I searched the kit for something that would allow me to put a ring terminal and spade connection onto the earth threaded post but I couldn’t find anything. I didn’t want to bother Derek with this one so made up my own lead with a crimp tool.
And this is what the lead looked like when it was finished.
And then installed…
At this point we have the hose from the expansion bottle connecting through the T-piece. And we have the J-hose feeding underneath the back of the cylinder head and through the submarine. The next task is to put the heater control valve in place and hook up these two connections from the submarine and T-piece.
The heater valve needs to be placed so that the control cable, running to the driver’s side firewall, needs to pass between the battery and the heater blower assembly.
Once I’d got all the hoses connected to the heater valve I wasn’t so keen to take them all off again. So… to get the control cable attached to the valve I found it easier to take the battery out and give me better access to the screw and clasp that the cable route to.
One oddity was that the screw on the clasp retaining the cable shroud seemed to be an odd size. It was bigger than a 6mm spanner but smaller than a 7mm. I ended up grinding a 6mm spanner to size. It’s probably imperial but I don’t have imperial spanners that go that small.
It was simple to install the heater control knob into the firewall on the driver’s side.
Oil Hoses Tightened
While I was thinking about plumbing I tightened up the oil hoses to/from the oil radiator, block and oil tank.
Some of the hoses were a little tricky to get to at this stage of the build and getting a torque wrench onto them was even trickier. The crows feet spanners came in handy with a mix-up of extension bars thrown in for good measure.
Once I needed to torque the oil hoses I derated the torque values on the wrench by the 5% fudge factor required because the centre of rotation of the crows foot increases the effective length of the wrench by 5%. This calculation only works if the crows foot is as in the photo above. If the crows foot is 90° to that shown in the photo then there’s no fudge factor needed but that’s not always the right configuration for the space you have.
That was the end of the day and most of the engine bay plumbing done. It’ll be working towards the rear of the car tomorrow with the prop-shaft and diff hopefully being fitted.
This is a catch up post. Things had been busy with work and family stuff so I only had a couple of short periods that I’ve bunched up into one build session.
Roll Over Bar
Whilst looking for something simple to do one evening I thought I’d have a go at the roll over bar.
Because I’ve upgraded to the track bar there’s an extra pair of bolts that have to be fitted from underneath into the base of the bar. This therefore means the roll over bar has to go in before the rear suspension – or else you can’t get those underneath roll over bar bolts in.
Not all of the holes lined up perfectly but they were good enough.
The rear mounting points needed a bit of persuasion to locate into the chassis but it wasn’t a big problem.
Note from the future: I had worried that fitting the roll over bar at this point might cause a problem later in attaching the rear suspension. In the end it was no problem at all and actually meant I could fit the rear dampers when it made sense to. For some reason the manual tells you to wait to fit the rear dampers if the roll over bar is not in place, well that makes sense, but it should really tell you to fit the roll over bar at that point – IMHO.
Top Radiator Hose
Again looking for a simple job I cut the top radiator hose to length. As with all the engine plumbing I’m leaving everything a little long if at all possible, I can always come back and trim it if needed – you can’t go the other way.
I used a pull saw to give a nice cut but otherwise a trivial job.
Water Expansion Tank Bracket
Ok… So… This one was going to be a little tricky. On a dry sump installation the water expansion tank can’t sit on the front chassis cruciform. It has to sit off to the RHS on a bracket that gets attached to the chassis.
The manual gives detailed dimensions for fitting the water expansion tank to a standard S3 chassis – giving a dimension from the engine bay centre cruciform along the front chassis rail to the bracket. The bracket that’s given is also drilled for the S3. So… on an SV you have to figure out where along the chassis rails this plate/bracket needs to go and then drill the chassis to take it. As you can see below the geometry differences of the S3 and SV chassis also mean the bracket holes don’t line up.
My plan was to measure twice, cut once. Well, actually it was more like measure 20 times… get the drill out… rethink… measure 5 more time… grind plate, drill chassis and rivet.
Initially, I was going to use rivnuts placed into the chassis and to screw the plate to the chassis through them. However, taking a few measurements of the chassis rails I wasn’t happy to complete on this plan. Firstly, the rails are only around 19.4 mm in diameter. I wasn’t happy to put anything much bigger than a 3mm rivnut into something that small. However, a 3mm bolt was not going to make a good fixing on the plate – it’s too small really for the 4mm hole in the plate. So… what about using 4mm rivnuts….
Well… that would be good for the plate holes but I wasn’t happy about the 6mm hole I’d have to drill in the chassis rails to take the rivnut – a lot of the chassis rail material was going to have to get drilled out and I didn’t want any structural problems later on – especially in any possible bumps.. I was also a bit concerned that putting what is essentially a device meant for flat surfaces into a chassis rail that has a tight radius on it would mean the rivnut would sit proud of the rail and may not even form correctly inside the rail. Choice made… use the standard rivet approach from the manual.
I got a bit OTT with all these machinations, and marked out the chassis rails with white paint to figure out where I was going to put things.
It seemed that the bracket/plate was going to have to sit some distance from the measurement given in the manual and so it came to mind that since it was moving closer to the edge of the car, I might move it too far and find it fouled with the bonnet – cue a test fit of the bonnet and nose-cone…
Bonnet (Hood) and Nose Cone Test Fit
This was exciting… an excuse to try a test fit of the nose cone and bonnet. The bonnet was still waiting to go back for a respray and the nose cone was squirrelled away in my office in the garden (along with most of the contents of the garage prior to this project).
After a test fit it was clear there was plenty of room for where I ended up wanting to put the expansion bottle.
One slight disappointment with this fitting was the discovery that I’m missing the 5/16″ hose that fits the small expansion bottle connection and connects to the rear of the cylinder head. That’ll be an email to Derek next week while I’m travelling.
While I was happy that I’d got the basic position of this bracket right I had run out of time and so this will have to wait until I come back from a business trip next week to Florida.
Here’s a couple of interesting pictures looking back towards the rear of the car with the bonnet on…